| HSBC NORTH AMERICA HOLDINGS INC. July 16, 2004  Office of the Comptroller of the Currency250 E Street, SW
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 Regulation CommentsChief Counsel’s Office
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 Attention: No. 2004-27
 Jennifer J. Johnson Secretary
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 Federal Reserve System
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 Jonathan G. KatzSecretary
 Securities and Exchange Commission
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 Robert E. FeldmanExecutive Secretary
 Attention: Comments/OES
 Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
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 Re: Proposed Interagency Statement on Sound Practices Regarding 
        Complex Structured Finance Transactions (Office of the Comptroller of 
        the Currency Docket No. 04-12; Office of Thrift Supervision No. 2004-27; 
        Federal Reserve Board Docket No. OP-1189; Securities and Exchange 
        Commission File No. S7-22-04) Ladies and Gentlemen:  HSBC North America Holdings Inc. (“HSBC North America”) appreciates 
        the opportunity to comment on the proposed Interagency Statement on 
        Sound Practices Concerning Complex Structured Finance Transactions (the 
        “Statement”) issued by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, 
        the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Board of Governors of the Federal 
        Reserve System, and the Securities and Exchange Commission 
        (collectively, the “Agencies”). HSBC North America is a wholly-owned 
        subsidiary of HSBC Holdings plc (“HSBC Holdings”), and is the holding 
        company through which HSBC Holdings conducts its operations in the 
        United States. HSBC Holdings is the largest banking organization 
        headquartered in the United Kingdom and is the second largest banking 
        organization in the world by market capitalization.  As a bank holding company, HSBC North America operates various 
        subsidiaries in the United States. Its principal banking subsidiary, 
        HSBC Bank USA, N.A., has more than 400 branches in New York, Florida, 
        Pennsylvania, California, Washington, and Oregon. Its consumer finance 
        subsidiary, Household International, Inc., is one of the country’s 
        largest credit card issuers and offers consumer and mortgage loans to 50 
        million customers through offices throughout in the United States. Other 
        subsidiaries of HSBC North America, including HSBC Securities (USA) 
        Inc., an investment bank registered with the Securities and Exchange 
        Commission, engage in a broad range of permissible nonbanking activities 
        in the United States. As financial institutions supervised by the 
        Agencies, HSBC North America and its subsidiaries would be directly 
        affected by the guidance provided by the Statement.  HSBC North America strongly supports the Agencies’ effort to provide 
        guidance on strengthening safeguards for the legal, reputational and 
        other risks that may be associated with some complex structured finance 
        transactions (“CSFTs”). As a leader in providing a wide array of 
        financial services to clients, HSBC North America believes that 
        financial institutions have a vital role to play in the responsible use 
        of CSFTs and related financial products and applauds the Agencies’ 
        recognition of the important role played by CSFTs and the institutions 
        structuring or participating in them in serving “the legitimate business 
        purposes of customers.” Moreover, HSBC North America appreciates the 
        Agencies’ observation that “many financial institutions have already 
        taken meaningful steps to improve their control infrastructures relating 
        to [CSFTs] in light of control weaknesses evidenced by recent events.” 
        Both HSBC North America and HSBC Holdings have long-standing, 
        sophisticated risk-management policies and procedures in place that 
        account for all components of risk, including legal and reputational 
        risk and we are consistently seeking to improve the safeguards in those 
        policies and procedures.  While it may be true that some financial institutions may need to 
        adopt legal and reputational risk-mitigation systems that have not been 
        taken seriously in the past, we respectfully urge the Agencies not to 
        impose unnecessary additional burdens on us and on other financial 
        institutions that for a long time have incorporated a thorough 
        evaluation of legal and reputational risk into our financial structuring 
        and advisory capabilities. In particular, the Agencies should avoid 
        imposing a “one-size-fits-all” approach as a solution for financial 
        institutions. The degree of exposure of these institutions to the risks 
        posed by CSFTs depends significantly on numerous variables, such as the 
        type of role played by the institution, the type of transaction 
        contemplated by the customer, and the jurisdictions in which both 
        operate. Of more importance is that such an approach threatens to expose 
        these institutions to the very liability from which the Agencies seek to 
        protect them. We therefore respectfully urge the Agencies to issue a 
        final version of the Statement that allows financial institutions 
        considerable flexibility in determining which transactions require 
        heightened scrutiny and how best to apply that scrutiny. The Statement 
        should allow a financial institutions to set its own standards with 
        respect to each of the areas for which policies and controls are 
        suggested so that it can account for the different roles and 
        responsibilities that it assumes and the types of CSFTs in which it is 
        involved.  Set forth below are our two principal comments on the Statement. 
        Following these comments we briefly list several other points of concern 
        to HSBC North America that we understand will be covered at greater 
        length in the comments of various financial trade associations of which 
        we are a member.  1. The Statement should not impose a new framework that imposes 
        liability on financial institutions for the failures of customers or 
        other participants in CSFTs.  The Statement as drafted threatens to increase the risk to the safety 
        and soundness of the banking industry by providing grounds for the 
        imposition of liability on financial institutions beyond those that 
        exist under current law. In some cases, language in the Statement could 
        serve as a basis on which to impose liability on financial institutions 
        for fraudulent activities independently conducted by customers or other 
        parties to a CSFT. This language includes the repeated call for 
        financial institutions to “ensure” that certain steps are taken and 
        results are obtained and the detailed and extensive review that the 
        Statement contemplates for what the Statement considers to be high-risk 
        CSFTs regardless of a financial institution’s own assessment of that 
        risk. We respectfully request that the Agencies reconsider the use of 
        terms in the Statement that may inadvertently convert its supervisory 
        guidance into a mandate or requirement for purposes of compliance. We 
        suggest that the Agencies replace the phrase “should ensure” with a less 
        prescriptive term such as “should consider,” “should strive” or “should 
        evaluate the need for.”  To avoid the unintended consequence of expanding rather than reducing 
        the exposure of the U.S. banking industry to legal risk, HSBC North 
        America asks that the Statement clarify that its guidance creates no 
        duty or any other ground on which to impose liability on a financial 
        institution or its directors and officers either for a failure to follow 
        the Statement’s guidance or for the actions of any customer or other 
        party to a CSFT, beyond those that exist under current law. The 
        Statement should also make clear that it does not shift the customer’s 
        obligation to comply with securities disclosure requirements to the 
        financial institution. We are concerned that unless these points are 
        clarified, the Statement will discourage financial institutions from 
        participating in legitimate, economically sound CSFTs and, at worst, 
        expose them to significant liability for the acts of others over which 
        they have no control and for which they should have no responsibility.
         Two more ways in which the Statement implies additional grounds for 
        liability are of particular concern to us. First, the Statement places 
        on a financial institution’s board of directors the burden for the 
        implementation of the controls and policies recommended by the 
        Statement. The Statement states, among other things, that the directors 
        are “ultimately responsible for the financial well being of the 
        institutions they oversee” and “should establish the financial 
        institution’s threshold for the risks associated with [CSFTs].” We agree 
        that a financial institution’s board should oversee its risk-control 
        framework and regularly make efforts to strengthen it; however, to 
        impose responsibility on the board for any shortcoming in that framework 
        would be a mistake. To do so would discourage qualified individuals from 
        serving as a director of a financial institution and, at a minimum, 
        would threaten their active participation and frank discussion in board 
        meetings.  Second, the Statement asks financial institutions to obtain 
        information and assurances from other parties, implying that the failure 
        to do so is a failure to comply with the guidelines. The Statement says 
        that, in the case of CSFTs that “pose higher levels of legal and 
        reputational risk,” a financial institution “should ensure that staff 
        approving the transactions obtain and document complete and accurate 
        information about the customer’s proposed accounting treatment of the 
        transaction, financial disclosures related to the transaction as well as 
        the customer’s objectives for entering into the transaction.” The 
        Statement calls for financial institutions to “consider seeking 
        representations and warranties from the customer stating the purpose of 
        the transaction, how the customer will account for the transaction, and 
        that the customer will account for the transaction in accordance with 
        applicable accounting standards, consistently applied.” Finally, the 
        Statement contemplates not only that third-party accountants be retained 
        to review transactions but that those accountants discuss the CSFT 
        transaction with the customer’s independent auditor.  The realities of the financial marketplace make compliance with these 
        guidelines impractical. A financial institution may find that its 
        customer simply refuses to comply with requests for these types of 
        information and assurances and that it has defensible reasons for doing 
        so. A customer’s outside auditor would typically have every reason not 
        to provide its client’s counterparty with information on which that 
        counterparty could later claim to have relied. A financial institution 
        may responsibly choose not to pursue certain of the approaches suggested 
        in the Statement for entirely legitimate business reasons, particularly 
        in circumstances in which it has relied on outside counsel and other 
        traditional resources for fully sufficient protection on these points.
         2. The Statement needs to allow a financial institution that operates 
        in a multi-jurisdictional environment the flexibility to adopt policies 
        and procedures that reflect foreign regulations and global 
        risk-management practices.  The Statement should make clear that it does not apply to non-U.S. 
        bank holding companies such as HSBC Holdings with respect to the CSFT 
        activities of their non-U.S. subsidiaries. In the case of a non-U.S. 
        bank, the Statement limits its application to that bank’s U.S. agencies, 
        branches or subsidiaries, clearly deferring to the non-U.S. bank’s 
        home-country regulator on the question of how CSFTs entered into by its 
        non-U.S. offices and subsidiaries should be regulated. The same should 
        be true for non-U.S. holding companies. In the case of the HSBC Group, 
        the Statement should apply to HSBC North America and its subsidiaries, 
        including HSBC Bank USA, N.A. and HSBC Securities (USA) Inc., but the 
        Agencies should defer to the Financial Services Authority and other non-U.S. 
        regulators on how CSFTs entered into to HSBC Holdings’ non-U.S. 
        subsidiaries should be supervised.  HSBC North America’s status as a subsidiary of a non-U.S. holding 
        company and member of a global organization that does business in 79 
        countries and territories prompts two related points. First, the 
        Statement needs to recognize that a financial institution such as HSBC 
        North America will be more likely to be involved in CSFTs to which a 
        non-U.S. affiliate or other non-U.S. entity will be a party simply by 
        virtue of its membership in a global organization. The Statement should 
        provide these institutions with the flexibility to tailor their internal 
        policies and procedures with respect to CSFTs in a way that reflects the 
        fact that these non-U.S. parties will be subject to non-U.S. regulatory 
        regimes. HSBC Holdings has decades of experience managing operations in 
        numerous jurisdictions, which requires it to integrate and reconcile 
        different regulatory regimes on a continuous and highly sophisticated 
        basis. HSBC North America and similarly situated financial institutions 
        should be allowed to rely on this unusual expertise and experience in 
        evaluating and monitoring its participation in CSFTs.  Second, the statement lists “[t]ransactions that cross multiple 
        geographic or regulatory jurisdictions” as an example of a 
        characteristic “that should be considered in determining whether or not 
        a transaction or several transactions might need additional scrutiny.” 
        Either this characteristic should be removed from the list or the 
        Statement should make clear that it is a characteristic that needs to be 
        considered only for institutions without significant direct or 
        affiliated foreign operations. HSBC North America is a financial 
        institution a principal strategic advantage of which is its ability to 
        structure cross-border transactions and serve customers and 
        counterparties in more than one geographic region. This admonition thus 
        applies to a substantial portion of its business. We respectfully 
        dispute the implication that such a transaction is per se likely to need 
        additional scrutiny on the ground that “processing and oversight” is 
        made more difficult. HSBC North America and its non-U.S. affiliates 
        distinguish themselves from their competitors on the basis that 
        “processing and oversight” is not more difficult for them, i.e. on the 
        basis that their expertise in these transactions enable them to evaluate 
        these transactions without the difficulties encountered by financial 
        institutions that do not enjoy the benefits HSBC Group’s global 
        risk-management infrastructure.  3. Additional Comments  We have summarized below three additional concerns that we have about 
        the Statement and that we share with a broader range of financial 
        institutions. We understand that they will be discussed in more detail 
        by other interested parties who plan to comment on the Statement.  a. The Statement should allow a financial institution to tailor its 
        CSFT policies not only to the type of transaction but to the scope of 
        the institution’s involvement in any CSFT. The Statement should make 
        clear (i) that different roles played by financial institutions in the 
        development or structure of CSFTs present different types and degrees of 
        risk, (ii) that heightened scrutiny may not be necessary in 
        circumstances in which financial institutions play a limited role in a 
        CSFT transation, and (iii) that financial institutions should exercise 
        the discretion and flexibility to apply the Statement’s guidance 
        differently when roles or responsibilities vary.  b. The requirement that a financial institution establish a special 
        SPE-approval process and monitor the use of SPEs is redundant and 
        unnecessary. The continuous review and monitoring of an institution’s 
        use of an SPE will be unnecessary in many instances in which an SPE is 
        formed and should properly be folded in to the heightened scrutiny 
        imposed on CSFTs that the institution has identified as requiring this 
        treatment. For example, an SPE created by a customer may well call for a 
        different level of scrutiny than an SPE structured by the financial 
        institution. Whether the use of a particular SPE needs to be 
        continuously monitored should be left to the discretion of the financial 
        institution, based on the type of transaction in question and the scope 
        of the institution’s role and responsibilities in that transaction.  c. Terminology throughout the Statement should be revised to avoid 
        the perception of vagueness. For example, the Statement urges financial 
        institutions to implement recommended policies and controls for 
        evaluating “the appropriateness of the transaction(s)” and “preventing 
        the financial institution from participating in inappropriate 
        transactions.” The terms “appropriateness” or “inappropriate” are not 
        defined by the Statement. We suggest that references to 
        “appropriateness” or “inappropriate transactions” be replaced with 
        “transactions that, in the determination of the financial institution, 
        pose an unacceptably high level of legal or reputational risk.” Also, 
        the statement that “[t]he more complex variations of selected structured 
        finance transactions have . . . placed pressure on the interpretations 
        of the accounting and tax rules” unnecessarily risks discouraging 
        innovation, and should be removed from the final Statement.  * * *  We hope that this letter is helpful to the Agencies as they begin to 
        finalize the Statement. We would be more than happy to discuss any of 
        the matters raised in this letter at greater length. Please do not 
        hesitate to call or e-mail me at (212) 525-6533 or janet.l.burak@us.hsbc.com, 
        if you have any questions about our comments.  Sincerely, Janet L. BurakHSBC North America Holdings, Inc.
 
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